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ASF Budget Committee votes 6-5 to not fund MSC Funding Board in next budget

Published: Friday, March 19, 2010

Updated: Friday, March 19, 2010 14:03

 The Activity & Service Fee Budget Committee voted 6-5 to not fund the Multicultural Student Center Funding Board in the new budget on Friday.

Senate President Pro Tempore Joshua Miller brought the issue up for discussion and Comptroller Shane Chism made the motion to vote on zero-funding — making their budget line $0 — the organization.

The MSC board is the primary source of SGA funding for registered student organizations hosting culturally themed events on campus.

During debate, committee members discussed whether the MSC Funding Board was a necessary step in the funding process, instead of the Financial Allocations for Organizations Committee, which funds all other on-campus events, controlling these funds.

Chism's main point was that student organizations have to attend an additional funding meeting to get approval for on-campus events that have a cultural theme.

"We shouldn't be pushing students through these hoops to determine what is a cultural event," Chism said during debate.

Chism called the existence of the funding board "meaningless bureaucratic nonsense."

Vice President Andrick Lewis said during debate that the MSC Funding Board just needs more time to fully develop into the legislative body it is capable of being.

The funding board was created in the 2009-2010 ASF budget.

Breanna Lee, the student-director of the MSC Funding Board, spoke at the meeting and said that she is pleased with the direction the committee is going and that the organizations they've seen don't have a problem with the process. She also said the funding board just passed official spending policy on Tuesday, which allows them to fund cultural food and decorations for events, as well as sets other guidelines as to what they can and cannot fund.

"We think we're no better than the senate," Lee said. 

The committee originally voted earlier in the meeting, but after being advised by Christa Coffey, SGA's adviser, to wait until a member of the MSC Funding Board was available, every member of the committee except Chism voted against zero-funding.

After Lee was available to speak, Senator Katie Celano reconsidered her vote, and the committee made their 6-5 decision.

The issue of zero-funding was originally raised during winter break and was brought back to the floor as part of the budget finalization process.

The $85,000 originally allocated to the MSC Funding Board was re-allocated during the meeting.

Of the original amount, $40,000 is now slotted for the Senate Working Fund, where the FAO Committee gets their money, and $45,000 was put in the general MSC programming account.

The ASF bill will still need to be approved by the Student Government Association Senate during their special session slated for April 1 and can be amended during the process.

The MSC Funding Board will continue to operate as normal until the end of the fiscal year but will have no funds to allocate during next fiscal year if they remain zero-funded, Chism said.

 

 

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22 comments

ANGRY
Fri Mar 26 2010 20:47
All I am reading are the whining illogical debates of power-hungry MSC members. NOTHING IS CHANGING AT THE END OF THE DAY - the cultural events are still going to be funded and are still going to happen!!! This is the same crap I've seen for years - all you guys want is POWER, POWER, POWER! And you hide behind your skin color to make your authoritarian demands! You imply racism to achieve your ends because you want your precious funding board and that's what you're telling the multicultural organizations - you're disgusting and you obviously know NOTHING about inclusion.

What if SGA kept the MSC funding board and then put only white people on it. Would all you MSC members still be upset with the decision to zero-fund it? It's still segregating out event-funding based on "culture" just like you want... so it's completely fine, right? RIGHT??? This has NOTHING to do with race and JUST deals with culture after all, right? RIGHT???

And all you cabinet members who keep talking crap about other cabinet members deserved to be fired. Disagree with the decision, fine, but for you to slander other cabinet members is atrocious and would get you fired in any "real-world" job... just count your lucky stars that you just work for silly Student Government and you're nothing but a bunch of petty students in petty jobs with no accountability and can somehow manage to still be paid while spouting this crap across the internet.

I'm just glad I don't have to deal with this crap and am long gone from UCF... MSC wasn't perfect when I was around either, but this is ridiculous. Good luck fooling yourselves for another few years.

Anonymous
Fri Mar 26 2010 11:39
and Chism to if he runs!
Anonymous
Thu Mar 25 2010 23:56
Josh Miller brought this whole thing up. I'll be campaigning against that scheming little piece of garbage. He's worthless.
concern alum c/06
Thu Mar 25 2010 03:58
I think the MSC has always had the short end of the stick. SGA leaders in the pass have tried to help them in many ways but nothing seems to work. I know that they have a direct coordinator and student leaders over their in the MSC and i want to know what are they doing to make the MSC as functional and stable as other OSI agency. I think the MSC needs to undergo a complete restructuring maybe similar to that of CAB or Late Knights but for minorities and their cultural programs.

the student leaders may not have alot of influence because they may change every year but the coordinator should have an all-inclusive plan of how to properly structure this agency. I hope this is taking place now and if it doesn't work by next year, the coordinator should be let go and the agency should be taken or merge with one of the more successful agencies.

UCF Student Leader
Wed Mar 24 2010 09:38
Shane chism is an ardent Republican. He believes that minorities should not be given any funding and has time and again voted against multicultural events as a senator, stating he believes its his fiscal responsibilty. however when it came time to vote for his beloved College Republicans to go on a trip, he fought for it whole heartedly to receive their funding. what absolute hypocritism
Anonymous
Tue Mar 23 2010 09:09
To the moron who 1. Left UCF and 2. makes uninformed statements...

I am the individual that was wearing a Beta Theta Pi jersey and eating my cookie. I supported the MSC and voted against zero funding the MSC Funding Board. I'm glad you left UCF, we need less people like you here. Please email, facebook, or call me if you would like to call me out. I'd be more than happy to reveal your stupidity again.

Andrick Lewis

"Youth ages, immaturity is outgrown, ignorance can be educated, and drunkenness sobered, but stupid lasts forever"

Anonymous SGA!
Tue Mar 23 2010 00:42
To Good work committee:

No one (including Kersti) ever mentioned anything about "black" organizations and the MSC funding board process. (Looks like someone needs Diversity Training with Michael Freeman!) The funding board was created to assist the cultural organizations (ALL of them not just the "black" ones) in ensuring their cultural event was given the proper attention and worth through its cultural value. The majority of the senators could care less about the important cultural aspects and details that go within a cultural event and the MSC funding board helped bridge that gap. I don't consider giving a cultural event the proper attention that is deserves segregation.

Anonymous
Mon Mar 22 2010 23:29
The Problem with many people within SGA and other agencies, is the fact that they did not start off their involvement in organizations. Either they were in SBPAC, SLC, or even a freshman senator. How can we as members of organizations trust the people who make decisions and allocate money to the organizations, if said people have never even been involved with an organization (and I do not include being Greek as an organization, because they are taken care of plenty within SGA).

I think Kilbride/Lochrane and future SGA presidents should really look at people who have been involved with organizations when picking their cabinet, and not their friends or people who have been in SGA forever. The same goes for senate, make sure you ask the senators your voting for what organizations they have been a part of.

We need REAL people trying to make a REAL difference on our campus

ucf stands for opportunity!
Mon Mar 22 2010 23:22
When I found out about the decision that senate members had made regarding the MSC funding board, I lost respect for a lot of those whom I know personally who sit on senate. I respect everyone's opinions and way of analyzing situations however, some people who sit on senate NEED to realize that this decision is NOT about THEIR life, but rather, the impact that their decision makes on the lives of 50,000 + students at UCF.

I know how the MSC funding board operates and despite been given little to no training, they have done a phenomenal job and did their best with what they had. Diversity and culture has gotten a lot of attention recently in the UCF community because clearly, it was lacking these 2 fundamental pillars that the world is now incorporating. We, as the 3rd largest school in the nation NEED to realize the importance of this and promote it, NOT demote it like what members of senate did.

The MSC funding board listens to allocations and bills from organizations deemed cultural by SGA. I think that the MSC is an agency on campus who is trying to promote diversity and culture hence, it should be given the opportunity to fund the organizations that it feels deserves to be funded. I can certainly say that most, if not all of the members who sit on senate are not culturally open and diversity is definitely not one of their friends. Therefore, they should let the MSC do what it does best and that is, to promote culture and diversity on campus which would lead to UCF being a more appealing campus than it is now.

While the world progresses and embraces differences in culture, it is as though senate feels threatened by it. It almost seems to me that it is not about how much efficiency or money is being sacrificed, it is more of a competition between the MSC funding board and FAO/Senate. Why can't senate see OTHER students taking leadership positions such as that of the MSC funding board? Why does Senate WANT to control everything?
I don't think there is possibly any way that an argument like "Funds are not being allocated well" or "Organizations are having too much trouble going through the MSC funding board" makes sense whatsoever. The RSO's used to go to FAO/Senate, now they go to the MSC funding board- IT IS THE SAME DIFFERENCE!!!

Whoever on senate voted is bound to their opinion however, it needs to be understood that a valid point should be debated and not flimsy "Oh it's too much of a hassle for RSO's" excuses. UCF stands for opportunity; please do us a favor Senate and let's not change our UCF chant!!!

Aleisha Hodo
Mon Mar 22 2010 18:00
I have put my name on this excerpt because I have clearly expressed my opinions on this matter to everyone including the powers that be. However to clarify:
Before I took my position within SGA I really considered the cultural differences and the image I had of SGA. I feel that diversity education and fiscal working knowledge of where student funds are allocated was a primary purpose of student government. Yet in still the miscommunication exists because people within SGA have yet to understand that you cannot vote or zero fund a particular entity without assessing the definition of what is working. Everyone knows senate FAO could decide on this Great we got it. That is not the point. This was an avenue and an outlet for the multicultural community to expand upon. Flip-flop voting of presidents and senate leaders is NOT appreciated.
No one questions senate or any other entity of SGA because it has been given the proper time and RESPECT to be structurally sound and stable in the message that it sends to students. The Berkowitz administration placed this on the Peterson administration to work with the Funding Board and assess its progress, and this administration has in turn FAILED in doing so. As student leaders our duty is to educate students on the funding process what it entails and let students decide what is best for them. The MSC is an agency, and has RSO'S under its umbrella so I see no problem with allowing this agency IF GIVEN THE PROPER STRUCTURAL BASIS to fund organizations and provide them with other avenues outside the politically controversial world of senate.
This vote seriously cripples what some senators thought would help to bridge the gap between the MSC and SGA. I am saddened that such people voted on a matter whom have never stepped into the MSC or attended any particular event prior to this semester. I applaud those advocates in the meeting who were open to possibilities and the growth potential of the MSC AND frown upon those individuals who complain of something "not working" when they have never stepped outside of the committee boxes to offer a helping hand or inquire about something that should always be included in any administration: diversity of opinions ideas, and acknowledgement of cultural differences.
Aleisha Hodo
Mon Mar 22 2010 17:59
I have put my name on this excerpt because I have clearly expressed my opinions on this matter to everyone including the powers that be.
However to clarify:

Before I took my position within SGA I really considered the cultural differences and the image I had of SGA. I feel that diversity education and fiscal working knowledge of where student funds are allocated was a primary purpose of student government. Yet in still the miscommunication exists because people within SGA have yet to understand that you cannot vote or zero fund a particular entity without assessing the definition of what is working. Everyone knows senate FAO could decide on this Great we got it. That is not the point. This was an avenue and an outlet for the multicultural community to expand upon. Flip-flop voting of presidents and senate leaders is NOT appreciated.

No one questions senate or any other entity of SGA because it has been given the proper time and RESPECT to be structurally sound and stable in the message that it sends to students. The Berkowitz administration placed this on the Peterson administration to work with the Funding Board and assess its progress, and this administration has in turn FAILED in doing so. As student leaders our duty is to educate students on the funding process what it entails and let students decide what is best for them. The MSC is an agency, and has RSO'S under its umbrella so I see no problem with allowing this agency IF GIVEN THE PROPER STRUCTURAL BASIS to fund organizations and provide them with other avenues outside the politically controversial world of senate.

This vote seriously cripples what some senators thought would help to bridge the gap between the MSC and SGA. I am saddened that such people voted on a matter whom have never stepped into the MSC or attended any particular event prior to this semester. I applaud those advocates in the meeting who were open to possibilities and the growth potential of the MSC AND frown upon those individuals who complain of something "not working" when they have never stepped outside of the committee boxes to offer a helping hand or inquire about something that should always be included in any administration: diversity of opinions, ideas, and acknowledgement of cultural differences.

Good work committee
Mon Mar 22 2010 12:29
I am glad this extra step was removed, it was too much of a hassle!
To Kersti Myles:
Not all of the organizations that went through the funding board were black. The ones that are not are the ones that had the problems.
And, even if it didn't say that cultural organizations had to go through the extra step unless they have cultural events, organizations that mostly have cultural events still had to go mostly to the board. So, in writing it might not have been segregation, but it was in reality. I have to agree with NikkiNicho on this one!

XoXoX UCF!

Kersti Myles
Mon Mar 22 2010 00:26
For Clarification NikkiNicho:

The MSC Funding Board funds Cultural Events NOT Cultural Organizations. MSC/MSC Funding Board are not segregating cultural organization from regular RSO's. To compare the funding board to Brown vs. Board of Education is insulting and a bit of a stretch. The MSC funding board aims to bring the best of both world of Senate, and their knowledge of funding and allocations with the MSC and their expertise in cultural programming and the importance of cultural events. I am not sure what "multicultral leaders" you have spoken with but they certainly do not speak for all, trust me there are a lot of cultural organizations at UCF that I have spoken with who are outraged at the zero-funding of the board.

My Opinion:
The Logan Berkowitz/Brandon Delanois Administration created the MSC funding board to combat the distaste and lack of satifaction cultural RSO's felt toward the current process of senate and the lack of attention they were recieving from their senators/representatives. SGA and MSC held open forums throughout the year to directly ask the student body and RSO's how they felt about this new concept. It was met with great reviews, hence why SGA/MSC moved forward with it. Come April, the Berkowitz/Delanois Admistration was no where to be found, and the funding board was dropped into MSC's lap. The MSC, being used to adapting to change (The have been an agency since 2003 and has seen changes to it each almost every year, can the same be said about any other agencies?) has seen this funding board through only to have be labeled "meaningless bureaucratic nonsense” by SGA Comptroller and to have the current Student Body President vote against it within the Peterson/Andrick Administration. So much for showing support and standing by your agency , an agency I might add that was directly created by SGA. And so much for consulting your student body, especially the minority students and cultural RSO's which this vote affects.

I have had plently of debates with senators, including Senate Pro Temp, Josh Miller concerning the funding board and their knowledge of their RSO's. I directly asked the Senate Pro Temp to name a RSO he assists, he named Club Kreyol. I then proceeded to as the Senate Pro Temp to name a staple event that Club Kreyol does, and he could not even answer it! (BTW...one of many is Club Kreyol's Soiree Kreyol.) I also asked him if he has attended any of the cultural events that MSC or his cultural organizations hosts, he couldn't name one! If we must get rid of the funding board, we at least need to hold our senators more accountable and they need to be more knowledgeable of what goes on around this university besides Vortex Amazing.

Thanks for taking UCF two steps back not two steps forward in attempting to create a diverse and incusive campus which properly highlights cultural organization through cultural events. Clearly UCF does not stand for opportunity. I am in no way bashing the Peterson/Andrick Administration or senate, because I am a proud member of the executive cabinet. I think we have done and continue to do a great job in providing students with a well rounded colligiate experience. But in regards to the MSC funding board I am completely against some members of my administration and their actions or lack of action in support of the MSC and the MSC Funding Board.

If you have any questions or concerns please contact me at the SGA website www.ucfsga.com or during my office hours SGA office (Rm 214) or MSC office (SU Rm. 153)
And if you are PRO MSC Funding Board please show your support at the next ASF meeting or Senate Meeting Thursday at 7pm where they will approve the new fiscal budget for next year.

Melissa Westbrook
Sun Mar 21 2010 23:21
As a member of the MSC Funding Board I would like to add that I am disgusted with our Student Government. What a way to stop the progress of culture and diversity. All the EXCUSES I read are just pointless. Was it neccessary, I think not. Just another group of "greek, think they have some power, and likes to take it to the head" committee. Trust me I have seen you all in SGA office and that is basically what you are. Please just except it. Why did you take back a decision that you had already previously decided. I guess uncertainty is another one of your greatest qualities. And to be perfectly honest, Shane Chism, i am shocked that you made the motion and voted against us. If Jereme Pozin voted for us then that speaks volumes. Since he ACTUALLY makes it to the meetings then he has seen that we have progressed. How could you support Kilbride& Lochrane when their platform involved expanding culture and diversity. As a freshamn here on this campus I like to stay involved so that I can actually help out my UCF community, and thanks for taking that away. Great job at accomplishing your mission to seperate culture as much as possible. This is not just my feelings, I am aware of the feelings of some organizations as well. You don't represent us. The Multicultural Student Center is not just an agency it's a home for cultured organizations and I feel more at home there than in SGA where it is full of like i said before "greeks who have a little power and decided to take it to the head". Thank you for your time.
Senator Katie Celano
Sat Mar 20 2010 21:45
I would just like to clarify a comment written below me...

The "Mrs. Field's" box you see on the table during the video was NOT doughnuts, it was an assortment of different kinds of cookies. With that said, those cookies were NOT -- and I repeat, were NOT -- funded by ASF. They were bought by our fabulous Chair Biship with HER OWN MONEY.

Think what you want, but don't write bogus facts because you're bitter. Thanks.

Anonymous
Sat Mar 20 2010 16:52
They are not giving them more money...... UCF doesnt stand for opportunity......
yeah
Sat Mar 20 2010 00:35
I agree with org. I went through SGA this year and it was probably the easiest ever. I was told that I might have to go through MSC and that just confused me altogether. it should just be at one place.
org member
Fri Mar 19 2010 23:25
i dont see why everyone is making a big deal out of this either. i watched the video and they are just removing the funding board not the msc and from what i hear they put more money for msc to program.
me and my organization have actually gone through both the sga senate (fao i think) and msc and it was the same thing. i actually like that they are making it easier for us.
Ef5o1
Fri Mar 19 2010 21:34
What I see in this video is a bunch of SGA kids in greek jerseys and sweatshirts, eating doughnuts paid for with student tuition-dollars, meeting behind closed doors, slashing the budget of the one productive cultural funding board on campus.
From here on out, whenever I see a UCF ad claiming the university values diversity, I'm just going to laugh.
This is precisely why I left this university. An administration and SGA rich in hypocrisy.
Shane Chism
Fri Mar 19 2010 19:20
I would like to add two important points of clarification for anyone reading this: (1) The decision is still preliminary and has yet to be approved by the SGA Senate (2) Cultural organizations and events will still receive funding, some at higher rates, through the SGA Senate. This is the identical process that was used less than a year ago for those organizations. The committee members voting in favor, myself included, felt that while the MSC Funding Board has done a stellar job at funding it was an unnecessary additional step that organizations had to take in order to obtain funding. SGA's mission has and continues to be one that allows UCF Knights the ability to pursue and obtain funding as quickly and easily as possible, regardless of the nature or mission of their event or organization.

If you have any questions or would like any additional information I highly recommend you contact me or other committee members directly. All of our contact information is publicly posted on the SGA website.







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