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Hold off on judging UCF PD

Published: Sunday, September 5, 2010

Updated: Sunday, September 5, 2010 15:09

Late last week, allegations surfaced about possible discrimination exhibited by the UCF Police Department.

A UCF professor, claimed she was called a "drug user," "crackhead" and "liar," based on her mixed-raced appearance and sexuality.

At this point, the allegations are still being investigated, which presents a difficult situation for anyone to make any assumptions.

The fact of the matter is that, regardless of what anyone thinks, this situation has not been resolved.

The necessity of massive movements, e-mails and gatherings seems premature without the completion of an official investigation.

Furthermore, Richard Beary, UCF PD's chief of police, personally requested assistance from Orlando Police in conducting the investigation.

This helps to assuage any claims that the investigation could possibly be slanted, as an outside organization is performing it.

The amount of support for Jennifer Lisa Vest is commendable, but could potentially become misplaced if the investigation presents different claims.

We understand that police discrimination is a real thing, as is sometimes the case with any position involving authority.

We also understand that this may very well have happened exactly as Vest says, but without an official source, where is the certainty?

In this day and age, everyone expects well-educated people to "look at both sides of the problem." Where is that in this instance? Why is it automatically assumed that university police wronged someone in some way?

According to the police report, Vest was not very compliant in her initial meeting with police. The officer explained why she was pulled over and noticed a pillbox.

Upon confirming that the pills were prescribed, the officer noticed her agitation.

When asked, she claimed that she was being harassed. From there, the miscommunications just continued.

As university students who study politics, law and history, we are taught to use only unquestionable resources in our research.

How is this any different from a research paper?

As students and members of the community, incidents such as these force us to conduct research about what happened. We scour news sources, official releases and listen to what our closest friends have to say on the matter.

The ultimate questions that we're asking at the Future is this: Is everyone quick to point blame to UCF police because they feel police frequently abuse authority? Or is it that people don't understand that these are merely allegations, not proof of any wrongdoing?

We can't write history papers without proper citations, mathematic reports without equations, or even articles without credible sources.

What gives UCF students the right to automatically assume that Vest was wronged in some way? Let's hold off on judgment until we have all of the facts.

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7 comments

Chris
Wed Sep 8 2010 17:41
Anonymous

I said the officers should be dealt with "swiftly and justly" "Once the investigations are concluded," not before. That implies that the investigations bear evidence that they should be reprimanded. I then added that they are '"innocent until proven guilty"' further adding a qualifier that they are not yet guilty. If the professor is wrong and fabricated evidence/ claims then she should be reprimanded as well once the investigations into the incident have been concluded.

Anonymous
Tue Sep 7 2010 14:46
I never said the petition was the issue, but I haven't read it so it might be as well. The letter to President Hitt from the professors boss and coworkers and the statements made to the press by her students and coworkers calling the officers racist and saying there is an epedimic of a problem with racisim and abuse of power by the UCF Police Department are in fact slanderous if proven untrue. Yes, the author of language used at the top of a petition can be sued for slander if that language accuses a person of criminal acts and actions of morale terpitude that are false and can jeapordize a persons credibility and career.

I am well aware of the case law and ability to sue for defamation of character. All I can say is those who signed their names on the first letter are idiots. Blind faith and jumping to conclusions based on ideology and not fact. That letter does not use words that would lead the reader to think the officers were only being accused and not already believed to be guilty without investigation. There is a reason that authors and media persons use the work "alleged". Yes, even the media has been sued for making it appear someone is guilty by ther spoken and written words without due process.

I just can't wait to see a few whiners get buried in litigation for their childish mouth.

NikkiNicho
Tue Sep 7 2010 08:32
Anonymous, really?
To suggest that signing the petition or what any student said to the media or in the letters is libel or slander is just a scare tactic. I really suggest you look up the laws and case history on that. Have you actually read the petition?
Pragmatist
Tue Sep 7 2010 00:59
I think it's important to remember here, however, that the results of the investigation are inconclusive. These officers are being condemned on hearsay and testimony from their alleged victim.

If what the professor claims is true than I wholeheartedly agree with all those who call for severe disciplinary action. However until such point as we are presented with fact it may be prudent to give the officers the benefit of the doubt.

Anonymous
Tue Sep 7 2010 00:29
For Chris...

You say they should be "dealt with sifty and justly" and then say they are innocent until proven guilty. It sounds like you already believe they are guilty. What about the professor? If it is determined that she fabricated the claims of racial discrimination does she also get dealt with swiftly and justly? Or does she get a pass?

To those who are slandering the officers involved without actual fact or evidence, I sure hope it is determined the acts you claim the officers did actually happened. If they are cleared, I would be prepared for defemation of character lawsuits to roll in for the professor, her co-workers who signed a letter to President Hitt, and all of those students that reported thier names to the media with accusatory statements. Free speech does not mean wildly irresponsible, unfounded, accusatory statements damaging the credibility and character of another person. I know this generation is taught to think before they speak, but this might be a lesson for those involved in this incident.

Those investigating will listen to her andthe officers and make judgement. The fellow co-workers, students, and persons not present at the incident are irrelevant as they do not know what happened.

Chris
Mon Sep 6 2010 21:06
The problem is not the UCF Police Department, the issue solely rests with the officers that participated in the incident with Dr. Vest. Once the investigations are concluded they should be dealt with swiftly and justly, but they are "innocent until proven guilty" just as the rest of us would be.
NikkiNicho
Mon Sep 6 2010 18:36
I think the students close to this issue who have been a part of organizing the "massive movements, e-mails and gatherings" have been very responsible in not blaming the police department, but instead focusing their messages and petitions on the officers involved in this incident and preventative measures.
If there are students who have misguidedly blamed the entire police department or called for anything drastic, I think it is unfair to connect those students to the ones who have been primarily organizing the "massive movements, e-mails and gatherings".
I also think that it is out of the question to assume that nothing happened and let this incident pass without drawing student and media attention to the issue and therefore I strongly support the initiative that students have taken to show public solidarity with Dr. Vest.
I recognize this as an opinion piece so I wont point out the bias, but I will say that the sources you are discussing here, perhaps should also be cited.






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