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Speech class cuts hinder students

Published: Wednesday, July 1, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 16:07

One of the most dreaded general education requirements, Fundamentals of Oral Communication, may no longer be accessible to a vast majority of the student body, even those who actually want to take it.

The class that used to be SPC 1600 is now SPC 1608, and beginning this fall only 30 sections will be offered by the College of Sciences and the Nicholson School of Communication rather than 75.

As a result, the COM 1000 Introduction to Communication course will become a much more popular alternative, but there are still two major stipulations that come with using this option.

First of all, no majors have listed this course as a preference or as a requirement to fulfill the communication foundation requirement.

This leaves one to wonder if there is even a point to taking it.

In addition, since the course usually has anywhere from 130 to 250 students enrolled, they are not required to actually make speeches in front of their classmates.

Students study theories and models of communication, but are not able to try them out and observe their effectiveness. Again, what is the point here?

UCF is obviously trying to save some money with the reduced class sections, but since the general education requirements haven’t changed, it would make more sense for the university to cut the number of sections for the COM 1000 course while increasing the number for SPC 1608.

It would be doing the student body a service in more ways than one.

Not only would students be able to actually enroll in a class they need to graduate, they would have a better chance to develop a skill that is a necessity for all careers.

Public speaking usually isn’t a talent students like to display — for some it can even be terrifying — but the ability to express yourself and explain concepts to a professor and a group of students will help during job interviews, interactions with co-workers and in other classes.

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12 comments

Your name
Tue Jul 7 2009 18:33
"History major and plans on teaching history some day at a college level I am offended by the insinuation that one subject is somehow "useless.""

Seriously?

First, you’re a history major and you choose to focus on observing history as your practice. If you are a history major, to you it would be very useful.

Let’s change this scenario for you to understand this. I'm going to FORCE you to take Calculus- Differential Equations. I wonder how much this will help you in your study of history. Do you need to study these courses? I use the information I learned from these courses on a daily basis. Are they useless in accomplishing your goal of becoming a history teacher? The answer is a very clear and strong “yes”, especially considering that most of us have already had this education in high school.

Read the thread that caused this long discussion. “These classes are a waste of time unless they're in your major.”

It's sad to see that as a history major you have such a lack of reading comprehension abilities.

Sean
Tue Jul 7 2009 17:47
I wouldn't consider any class a "waste of time" just because it doesn't fall within your academic are of concentration.

The idea that history is a waste of time to anyone is shameful to hear from a student at a University. As someone who is a History major and plans on teaching history some day at a college level I am offended by the insinuation that one subject is somehow "useless."

I don't take economics classes or biology classes but I would never dismiss their usefulness even to myself as a history major. Anything the furthers your knowledge of the world around you is never a waste.

Another point: the purpose of a speech class could be subsumed into other subjects (i.e. oral presentations.) This would even allow one's public speaking skills to be tailored to their area of concentration.

Your name
Mon Jul 6 2009 20:07
"but given the number of Americans who think Creationism is on par with Evolution".

ok I'll agree with this. But I still see this as something that should be taken care of at the high school level. Of course, many private institutions brain wash their kids to only believing that the bible is the proper book for all spiritual teachings.

not like they read their own bible anyways. A representative from I believe Minisota was voting to cut funding for poor kids lunch meals over the summer saying that "hunger is a positive motivator". I'm surprized that these people exist. I was just as surprized to hear that she was the owner of a christian bookstore.

Daniel D.
Mon Jul 6 2009 18:16
I'm taking COM 1000 and not too happy about it, speech would be a much better use of my time. More lectures instead of practical application for once......
Your name
Mon Jul 6 2009 13:10
My gripe with this article comes from the fundamental misunderstanding on which it was written. Let's break it down by the 2 main incorrect sentences:
"no majors have listed this course [COM1000] as a preference or as a requirement to fulfill the communication foundation requirement. This leaves one to wonder if there is even a point to taking it."
First of all, major departments do not have a say in which Gen Ed courses students in their major can take. They can suggest a preference of a Gen Ed course in a category, but the major department does not have the power to "accept" or "not accept" any Gen Ed courses. Therefore, every student on this campus can take COM1000 to meet the Oral Communication Gen Ed requirement, and there is nothing the department of their major could do about it to no accept it.
"UCF is obviously trying to save some money with the reduced class sections, but since the general education requirements haven’t changed, it would make more sense for the university to cut the number of sections for the COM 1000 course while increasing the number for SPC 1608."
Let's think about this... about 250 students can take COM1000 in one classroom. About 25 students can take SPC1608 in one classroom. Therefore, the university has to pay 1 instructor to teach 250 students in COM1000 and it has to pay 10 instructors to teach 250 students in SPC1608.
Here's a great idea!!! How about we pay 10x more money to add more sections of SPC1608, and to even it out, UCF CUTS YOUR MAJOR.
I totally agree that it would be great to offer more sections of SPC1608, but in reality, the UCF budget is being cut and some things must bend to accommodate.
Fernando Maldonado
Thu Jul 2 2009 09:13
"That depends on what you consider educated."

Well, anyone with a general understanding of mathematics, science, culture, and history--all subjects required to earn a degree from this and any other reputable university. YOU may personally feel you don't need some of the subjects in these areas but given the number of Americans who think Creationism is on par with Evolution, who are at a complete loss as to why this country is feared and hated in parts of the world, and who think that Communism or pure laissez-faire Capitalism are solid systems to build a state upon, I can understand why students are made to at the very least CONSIDER these subjects for four months out of their four/five year college career.

And please note my comments are directed at the general UCF student population not just you personally.

Your name
Thu Jul 2 2009 00:14
" At least with history you gain something that might make you a more educated citizen"

That depends on what you consider educated. I know a heck of a lot about world affairs but have never found the history of America in the 1800's that useful in my every day life.

I would rather replace history with communication, writing, business administration or something pertaining to my major like software development using VB.

You're not exactly breaking any news to me by saying that most of life is going to be a waste of time but if I can replace History with one of the above it'll certainly be less of a waste of time.

Fernando
Wed Jul 1 2009 23:35
Hate to break it to you but most of life is going to be deemed a "waste of time." College especially. Not every class you're going to take--even within your major--is going to be immediately relevant to you. At least with history you gain something that might make you a more educated citizen as well as a sharper thinker.
Your name
Wed Jul 1 2009 22:07
Fernando,

Depending on your major and your interest history can be a waste of time.

I understand the world around me by reading the news and reading books. I learned much more from doing that than what I learned in my history classes.

Do I NEED to be forced to pay to take a history class when I've already learned everything they have to teach in high school? I don't think so.

Why do we have to take these classes when they don't pertain to our major? Of course, everybody at some point should understand how to give a presentation, how to write and should understand basic algebra.

Your name
Wed Jul 1 2009 22:02
yeah, it's american history and not speech that is the waste of time
Fernando
Wed Jul 1 2009 21:39
Ahem, history a waste of time? Only if you're not interested in understanding the world around you.
Your name
Wed Jul 1 2009 20:50
A more obvious place to cut would be required Gen Eds such as American history, psychology, world history, and world religions. These classes are a waste of time unless they're in your major.

everybody needs to learn speech though.







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